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Power Fault Standard Changer

  • 1.  Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-16-2019 17:45
    I have this 2 verifier 4 hopper machine on one dedicated breaker. It is a 600 FST for reference. A number of months ago I would get a power fault err every once in a while on one side. So I replaced the 40 watt board and it worked fine until now. Problem came back. What else could cause this?

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  • 2.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-16-2019 21:08
    You should have two dedicated lines on their own breaker and upgrade the boards to the higher wattage boards.

    INFORMATION: Standard model numbers tell you the cabinet size, number of hoppers, number of verifiers and front or rear load. Here's how to interpret:

    SC means Standard Changer.
    First number is cabinet size. 4=big, 6=small
    4 cabinet can hold 4 hoppers maximum.
    6 cabinet can hold 2 hoppers maximum.

    Second number is the number of hoppers.

    RL means rear load.
    DA means it has dual (2) verifiers.

    Example:
    SC61 would be the small cabinet with one hopper, front load.
    SC44RLDA would be large cabinet, four hoppers, rear load, with two verniers.

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  • 3.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-17-2019 05:29
    When you say higher wattage board do you mean a 60 watt board. I used to use those years ago. Since Standard upgraded that old style to the new one have not had any issues until recently. I think it is actually a 45 watt board.

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  • 4.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-17-2019 19:14
    Edited by MICHAEL WALSH 08-17-2019 19:17
    Curt & others,

    Over on the car wash forum there was a guy who recently stated that he was pretty sure that the Pure Sine Wave UPS he installed to power his bill changer machine 100% solved his power supply problems.  Some electronic genius's on this forum might be able to clarify & explain the whys of that .... & even whether that could possibly be true???!!!  Ideally, someone from the manufacturer would share some inside knowledge on any potential gains using that kind of UPS device.  I sorry ... some more wishful thinking on my part!

    BTW ... it has been over 7 years since we upgraded to their current 600EFs.

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  • 5.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-17-2019 20:00
    Michael,

    Two of my Rowe bill changers are now 34 years old and still going strong. I wonder how many bills these changers have cashed over all those years.

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  • 6.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-18-2019 01:16
    Edited by CURT HARRINGTON 08-18-2019 17:37
    Michael,

    That sounds like a dirty power issue. Many moons ago I had a welding shop connected to the same transformer as me. The back EMF would really mess with my changer. Good thing there were no computer operated washers at that time. I had to use a one to one transformer to not allow that noise to get through.
    When you say Pure Sine Wave I assume that is the name of a product? Things have come a long way from the square wave to the tiny little square waves almost looking like a true sine wave. Has someone truly come up with an actual true wave? I would not be shocked the way things have advanced the last few years.

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  • 7.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-18-2019 18:04
    Curt & others,

    It seems that there are several brands of the "pure sine wave"

    I am using the below for one of my computers ... it is kind of spendy for a bill changer.  Not sure if it would help on the electronics within most bill changers ... including Larry A's Rowes.

    It was explained to me that sine wave is what is generated within some of our equipments' VFDs that drive some of our inverter duty motors.

    https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups/pfc-sinewave/

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  • 8.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-22-2019 10:57
    Hi Curt,
    You no need to replace every time but you can adjust the power on 40 watt board.

    Regards,
    Prabhu Ughareja

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  • 9.  RE: Power Fault Standard Changer

    Posted 08-22-2019 11:53
    The voltage is correct. It has not done it again. I think it might have been an actual power fault?

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